There’s more than one way to skin an evil murderous robot. Vince, Chris, and Kia took a look back at a couple of classic Ultron stories written 30 years apart to see just how things have changed in the comic book world.

LISTEN in amazement as they discuss differences between the movies and the comics and try to wrap their heads around exactly what the heck is going on with the Avengers.

This episode: Avengers Vol. 1 #66-68 [1969], Avengers Vol. 3 #19-22 (Ultron Unlimited) [1999]

Next episode: Marvel's Godzilla: King of the Monsters #20-24 [1979]

Big bad nurses, stabby Santas, and bowling balls to the head. It’s all right here in Born Again, a classic Daredevil story by the master of superhero noir himself, Frank Miller.

We follow Matt Murdock as he gets more paranoid than we’ve ever seen him before and falls into a deep pit of depression. But hey, can you blame the guy? You’d be a wreck too if the Kingpin discovered your secret identity and dismantled your entire life.

Chris, Vince, and Kia go through this story and discuss classic villain tropes, comparisons to Batman, and decide once and for all whether it really deserves to be called a classic. All without giving away any spoilers for the new Netflix series, we promise!